I have already had the pleasure of telling her about one experience I had on this visit to Detroit that surely ranks with the greatest experiences of my life, but I will save it for the end of this entry. It is not the one that stuck in my mind upon my departure. What stuck in my mind was being at one of Detroit's two Capucin soup kitchens for a meeting of the Detroit Action Commonwealth. The meeting was of about 100 or so of the organization's purported 1500 homeless members.
When I came in, I asked one of my hosts just who was in this group, and I was told that many of the members were squatting in abandoned buildings, while some were in shelters or other arrangements. What stuck in my mind was the announcement made during the meeting, by a member of the Capucin staff, that they would be taking up a collection for the people of Haiti and that some of the members would be getting checks at the beginning of the month and it would be good if people could make a contribution of a dollar or fifty cents.
In one of the more inappropriate moments of my childhood, I remember a first or second grade teacher reading our class a story about some festival where everyone was supposed to brings gifts and lay them before a statue of Jesus, and a clockmaker made his greatest clock, but it was taken away by a rich noble who wanted it to be his gift, so the clockmaker just offered an apple and it was for that apple that the statue reached out its hand. It was inappropriate, because that was not the sort of story that should have been read to a class of mixed faiths in, of all places, a heavily Jewish New York City elementary school, but nonetheless, I remembered that story at the Capucin Soup Kitchen and thought to myself that if there were any statues of Jesus around accepting gifts, those few dollars from the Detroit Action Commonwealth might well be what one of them would reach for -- for the heartfelt significance of the gift, I mean, not because I think Jesus wants the cash.
Racing around Detroit, I had lots of other noteworthy experiences. For example, I got to sit in on a planning meeting for the upcoming U.S. Social Forum (USSF), which will be bringing thousands of activists to Detroit in June. I can't really talk about their plans, since some of them aren't official, much less public yet, but being there reinforced the feeling I have had for a while now that there's an anti-poverty movement in America that's getting ready to grab some attention, much the way the gay rights movement took off after Stonewall.
The hardest thing to figure out isn't why it has come to this now but why it has come to this at all. When you read, for example, how they imprisoned the suffragettes and force fed them brutally when they went on a hunger strike in prison, all you can think is, "Why?" As far as America's homeless policy goes, you can save yourself decades of waiting and ask "Why?" right now. It ain't like it's likely to look any better in 100 years.
The Michigan Welfare Rights Organization (MWRO) had me on their television show which is on a local UHF station and, thus, also on various cable systems around the city. Maureen and Marianne, were the two hosts from the MWRO and they must have built up a loyal following, because calls came in quickly. I probably should have something intelligent to say about the on-air discussion, but actually, I think Maureen and Marianne must rate their guests by whether or not they know a fraction as much as the two of them know already, so I can only hope I contributed something. It was fun, for sure, and I found myself in a strange confrontation with the monitor.
I'm a radio person, and even when I've been on TV, I haven't been in a position to see myself in real time, but at this studio, they had a monitor directly in front of us. All I could think about was my propensity for talking with my hands, which might be a bit quirky for a radio host, but which, I thought, looked really silly on television. So after a little while watching my hands flashing on the monitor like a a couple of bloated butterflies loose in the studio, I tried to be good and keep them folded in front of me on the table we were all sitting at, but it quickly became impossibly confining, like I was trying to keep my composure while sitting on a hot iron. Finally, I just said to heck with it and went natural. No one complained. Nonetheless, I don't covet a television career.
This visit to Detroit wasn't all fun and games, though. There was a sensitive situation with our host station, WHFR in Dearborn, that had to be resolved. Those folks have been great to us, so I was surprised that an issue came up at all, and the fact that it did says all kinds of things, I think, about Detroit. What happened was that I distributed a press release. It's the same one posted on the Homelessness Marathon's website, but for convenience, I will reproduce it here:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
BROADCAST TO ORIGINATE FROM “CENTER OF AMERICA’S MELTDOWN,”
will interview losers in the global economy and ask why Detroit doesn’t care for its own.
The 13th Annual Homelessness Marathon will originate from Detroit, MI, starting at 7pm, ET, on Tues., Feb. 23rd and running overnight until 9am, Weds., Feb. 24, 2010.
At any given moment, there are at least 13,000 to 14,000 homeless people in Detroit, of whom 60% are families with children. Shelters there cannot keep up (in 2002, well before the current economic crisis, the shortfall was already estimated at 7500 beds per night), and the situation is completely out of control. For example, Alternatives For Girls, a Detroit non-profit that tries to keep homeless young women between the ages of 15 and 20 from a life on the streets, reports that last year it had to turn away 800 otherwise qualified candidates for shelter because no beds were available.
Worse yet, the framers of Detroit’s “10 Year Plan To End Homelessness,” acknowledge that their plan will not accomplish its stated purpose. The plan’s “Expected Ten Year Outcomes” include, “Increased funding dedicated to long-term solutions,” and “Increased numbers… moving…into permanent housing,” but there is no expectation that homelessness in Detroit will actually come to an end. In other words, Detroit’s plan to end homelessness is actually a plan to leave thousands of people on the streets!
“We chose Detroit,” explains the Homelessness Marathon’s founder, Jeremy Weir Alderson, “because it is the center of America’s meltdown. American jobs were shipped abroad with nothing in place for the American workers who were losing them. Surely the American people ought to look at what created this social disaster and ask if the nation might not be better served on a different course.”
The broadcast will originate from 12025 Woodrow Wilson St. in Detroit, a building in the Cass Community Social Services complex. Homeless people will be gathered there so that they can speak directly to the nation. The broadcast will also feature the voices of diverse experts, callers from around the country and, if possible, politicians.
WHFR, 89.3 FM in Dearborn, Michigan, the radio station of Henry Ford Community College, will be the on-air host of the broadcast. Other participating Detroit area radio stations will include WHPR, 88.1 FM, in Highland Park, Michigan, and CJAM, 91.5 FM in Windsor, Ontario.
The Homelessness Marathon will also air on around 100 American radio stations and will be simulcast, in part, over the 45 or so Canadian radio stations carrying a parallel Canadian Homelessness Marathon, now entering its eighth year. The broadcast will be made available to stations free of charge over the Public Radio Satellite System, the Pacifica satellite Ku-band and through a webcast.
More information about the Homelessness Marathon, including schedules and sound clips from previous broadcasts, can be found at: http://www.homelessnessmarathon.org/.
Acclaim for the Homelessness Marathon can be found at: http://homelessnessmarathon.org/2008/09/thank-yous-acclaim.html
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Let me begin by pointing out that press releases are supposed to be a bit provocative, and that while you might say I am a lousy writer, a poor provoker, and an all-around jackass to boot -- none of which would I argue over -- you can't say that this release in any way resembles, "J'Accuse." By the standards of the Homelessness Marathon itself, this was pretty tepid.
For our tenth Marathon, I issued a release that read, "'We picked Fresno... partly because of the extraordinary cruelty with which homeless people are being treated there."
For the 11th Marathon, I penned the immortal words, "We must never forget that Nashville, like the rest of the country and especially the South, once embraced the cause of slavery, and it was the powerful folks, not the powerless ones, who brought that shame upon the city."
For the 12th Marathon I wrote, "Contrary to the claims of politicians that post-Katrina (and Rita, Gustav and Ike) reconstruction has gone well, it has actually been a disaster... Thousands of destitute elderly and disabled Katrina survivors in Mississippi, along with single parents and their children, may soon be put out on the streets as their temporary housing is taken away."
For all of those releases put together, I got only one complaint, from FEMA, saying that it did not have any plans to evict anyone, and that they didn't even have an eviction procedure. They were lying, though, and a few months later they began evicting people (I am given to understand that they pulled back only after lawsuits started getting filed.)
I got a much more heartfelt negative reaction to the release about Detroit. Some of the people associated with WHFR -- which is the station of Henry Ford Community College, not some lefty cooperative -- were concerned that the first few lines of the release seemed to be blaming Detroit. To me, it seems self-evident that, if you've got thousands of people sleeping on the streets, you're not taking care of your own, but apparently people felt it was like I was criticizing their best efforts.
One person even said it was like I was criticizing Mitch Albom, who is known nationally for such books as, "The Five People You Meet In Heaven," and locally as a WJR talk host who is involved with trying to help homeless people. In point of fact, I had already invited Albom to be a guest host, though thus far he has not responded, and besides that, I regularly praise the good spirit of the American people. I'm a big pontificator (don't knock it until you've tried it), and I love to intone, "In this country we've got a failure of our leadership, not our people." .
Questions were also apparently raised by some of WHFR's friends about who is this guy, coming in from the outside and stirring things up? Mind you, this was all very friendly. The station isn't responsible for everything I say, and no one ever even hinted that they might withdraw support for the broadcast, but be that as it may, I was surprised to get this reaction.
Maybe I was careless in drafting the release, but I had the feeling I was encountering something I didn't quite know what it was. I sought to find out by asking Linda Lash, the director of community services for the UAW if she saw anything offensive in the release, and she didn't, but she hadn't had any reason to pass it on to a lot of people the way WHFR did. Maureen from the MWRO told me that she didn't see anything objectionable about it either, but she did allow that when she had passed it on, some of her people had also asked questions about who I was.
I asked Maureen why she thought these questions were coming in, and she said that this was because too many people had come to Detroit to exploit its suffering. Some people felt that even Jesse Jackson had passed the hat and left town, so now they're skeptical.
I began to divine that there are differences in the Detroit mindset from other cities we've been in, and the first part of it I would call, "The Buffalo Blues." I live in upstate New York, and we all get snow, but Buffalo is the city that is always the butt of jokes about it. I think the people there would probably just as soon not be getting all this attention, and in a much more serious way, I think Detroit suffers from some of that. Many cities have widespread poverty, but Detroit's problems seem to have gotten a lot more negative attention in the media. Time/CNN has even set up a special Detroit office, like its a bathysphere descending into some exotic world instead of a regular U.S. city.
The whole "poor Detroit" scenario is, at root, counterproductive. Detroit doesn't need a pity party, which will produce nothing (what have they gotten for all the sympathy sent their way so far?). What Detroit needs is a national government determined to address the problems of America. Of course, that's just me talking, but a government that, for example, passed legislation to help our cities, would automatically be helping Detroit, even if Detroit was never specifically singled out. In such a scenario, Detroit would be getting help but not attention. As it is now, I think Detroit must feel like it's getting attention but not help.
I am so far from being an expert on Detroit that my ramblings on this subject may amount to nothing more than the chronicle of my ignorance, but you know, fools rush in, and at this moment of my understanding, I do sense other dynamics to Detroit's psychology. One other thing I think I may be seeing is what I would call, "Schindler's List Syndrome," in which people save who they can save, but don't try to take on the big picture of what's gone wrong.
The Homelessness Marathon crew did a special half-hour show, as a first edition of what we hope will one day be a weekly program about poverty. In it, we ran my own report from my last visit to Detroit, and in that report, I interviewed several shelter operators who were perfectly candid in saying that the local homelessness situation is completely out of control. They don't think for a second that their collective efforts are adequately filling the need, but at the same time, you don't see a lot of millitancy.
The situation is so bad that Detroit activists told me they had supported Dave Bing for mayor, even though they opposed his policies, because they thought that, at least, he would be an honest man. That kind of desperation has got to hurt the pride of a once-great city. I'm not so sure that Detroit isn't still great, but it's current docility is hard to figure. Is there a feeling of, "We rioted in '67, and after that, everything just went to hell, so we've learned our lesson and we don't want to make waves anymore?" I wonder if that could be a part of it, but I really don't know.
I do know that the powerlessness in Detroit runs deeper than not having anyone to vote for. The MWRO points out that people are being driven from their homes by water shut-offs and that the city controls the water. In other words, the City of Detroit, itself, is forcing people into homelessness. So far, the MWRO has been unable to stop the city from evicting people, so the chances of getting the City of Detroit to end homelessness altogether seem pretty slim.
There may also be a particularly ironic element in Detroit's peculiar psychology. I think part of the reason that I got strange reactions to what I said about Detroit actually could be because more people care. That's the funny flip-side of things, where as they get worse they get better. My gut feeling is that the problem in Detroit isn't that nobody cares but that everybody cares. Maybe some of my earlier press releases didn't arouse negative reactions because the people who might have reacted didn't care enough to pay attention. In Detroit, maybe it's that most everybody is genuinely concerned, and even if they don't know what to do, they are all paying attention.
When I shared my thought that there might be a peculiar mindset in Detroit with Faith Fowler, the reverend who runs Cass Community Social Services, our host on the ground, she just laughed and made some comment along the lines of I had "discovered America." That's pretty much how everybody has reacted when I've brought it up. Regardless of how rudimentary my understanding of it may be, the Detroiters themselves seem to think their city lives in a special psychological space.
I can't say, though, that that special psychological space extends to the management of WDET, Detroit's main NPR station. They act like their allegiance isn't to Detroit, but to a more general NPR mindset, a mindset which I am just plain sick of.
By way of illustration, I will tell you that, a couple of years ago, NPR switched to a new system by which affiliated stations could access content on the Public Radio Satellite System (PRSS). They came up with this thing called "Content Depot," which works through a website. It's kind of a big pain in the neck, but I guess it's better for the stations than the old system. As I am a producer who distributes a show via the PRSS, I've got a password for Content Depot. Like other producers, I enter my show in the on-line catalog and hope that stations will subscribe. The Content Depot web site is designed to help program directors search for shows. Stations can enter terms into a search engine and come up with a list of programming which matches the keywords.
In other words, when you enter a search term in the Content Depot search engine, you are searching through the information provided by every single show that uses the PRSS, and there's a lot of them, including many syndicated weekly and even daily shows (you may also pull up ancillary materials like promos for these shows). The system is still kind of new, but the records go back at least three years.
The "Homelessness Marathon" broadcasts only once a year, plus we've done one special over the PRSS. Yet when you enter the term "Homelessness" on the Content Depot search engine, the first nine entries that come up are generated by the Homelessness Marathon. I find this shocking and pretty much indicative of what's wrong with NPR.
The simple fact of the matter is that NPR broadcasters don't act like they really care about the hundreds of thousands of homeless people who are struggling to survive in America every day. I've kind of been pissed with NPR about this for a long time, and I've done some research.
A few years ago, I made an experiment with a different NPR search engine, the one on their website for the public. There you could enter a search of everything that was carried on an official NPR show, like "Talk of the Nation" or "Morning Edition." That's a lot less than what is carried on the PRSS, which also carries scads of specials and syndicated shows. But a search of the public site, though smaller in scope, focuses more precisely on programming that NPR itself has created. In 2002, this search engine of NPR's inner core yielded 30 hits for "homelessness," the exact same number of hits you got for "Martha Stewart" and "Jewelry." "Aliens" had 188 stories, "Dogs" had 212 and "Fish" had 490.
Let me state for the record, that I have not always been of good temper or good attitude, and I don't want to make light of my anger at NPR from any perspective. In my own personal case, there is a great deal of room for improvement in terms of how I approach things, and I will not present myself here as a white knight battling the forces of evil. Sometimes, I am just an angry person, but fortunately, at least, sometimes I get angry at the right people. So, leaving aside my imperfect nature as a messenger, what do these numbers say about NPR?
You know, to me, it seems like NPR ought to be critical of itself. I often say that the only thing they're good at is pretension, so I am probably not the right one to comment on this, but just the same, aren't they the network that has the show "All Things Considered?" How are they "considering" "all things" when fish get their attention 16 times more than homeless people? Actually, it's a little worse than that, because the precise term "homeless people" got only 27 hits, but in any case, are fish stories more important than human stories?
And why has it been left to the likes of me to bring this up?
Mind you, I am still just getting warmed up to what I don't like about WDET, but first let me tell you another thing I don't like about NPR. I have to deal with the part of NPR called the NOC, or "Network Operations Center." It just so happens that I really like the folks down there. They are total professionals. I'm sure they do make mistakes, but I've never seen one. So far as I know, they're everything we used to think of NASA, except that is, on the top administrative level, which, perhaps, better resembles what we learned about NASA after the Challenger disaster.
The NOC is where you send your signal, especially if you are doing a live show. The analogy with NASA is especially apt, because they take your signal and put it up "on the bird," which is to say that they uplink it to their satellite channel, from whence it is downlinked by dish antennas at NPR affiliates around the country. The problem is that before they can uplink your signal, you have to send it to them, and they are the ones who determine how that will be done. You have very little choice in the matter.
Once upon a time, there were several independent uplinks that could send stuff to the satellite, but around the time when the PRSS switched over to Content Depot, it also abolished the independent uplinks, so there's no one you can deal with now but the aparatchiks of NPR's one-party fiefdom. And guess what. These aparatchiks decided that they would design their operation to accommodate rich broadcasters while disaccommodating, shall we say, the poor ones.
The technology of radio is evolving quickly, but just three or four years ago, you had three basic ways of transmitting your signal to the NOC, which, just to confuse matters, was called the STC back then. You could send them your signal via satellite, so they would be downlinking it from wherever you sent it from before uplinking it again for distribution to the NPR system. That's the gold standard, and NPR was well equipped to receive signals in this way. The next most expensive thing you could do was transmit your signal using ISDN lines, which are special electronic data transmisison lines, and that pretty much exhausts my technical knowledge on the subject (I am the Ted Baxter of our operation). What I do know is that you need an expensive device to send an ISDN signal and that the lines themselves are expensive. NPR was well equipped to handle these transmissions too.
The cheap technology involved using a POTS line. POTS stands for "Plain Old Telephone Service." The devices you needed to send signals over telephone lines were a lot cheaper than the ISDN devices and the lines themselves are ubiquitous and inexpensive. The only problem is that NPR is not equipped to receive these signals. The head of operations at NPR Distribution explained to me once that there were too many kinds of POTS devices to be able to receive all of the different kinds of transmissions people might demand of them. At the time he spoke, though, one manufacturer was advertising a POTS device that was compatible with more than 90% of the other POTS devices on the market.
To this day, we use a POTS device as our back-up means of transmission, and to this day we have to send the NOC a sister device for our dedicated use, because otherwise they just don't have this equipment. By the way, our primary device these days facilitates transmission over the internet, which has been a game changer in radio just has it has been in so many other ways. Before I leave this topic, I want to mention that NPR Distribution once sent around a letter that they were looking for consumers of their services to sit on some panel or board. I wrote in saying I wanted to be considered for one of those positions, but I never received any acknowledgment.
Another point about NPR is that, though they cultivate an image of people who pinch the pennies donated to them, they're pretty good at gorging from the trough. In 2002, their five highest-paid staffers (four of whom were corporate marketers) were making from$191,299 to $242,411, while their president made $228,322 plus $76,665 for expenses. To put that in perspective, those people earned more than the entire operating expenses, including the GM's salary, of the radio station that launched the Homelessness Marathon plus the cost of every broadcast the Homelessness Marathon has ever done. Some folks at the affiliates were compensated even more generously.. In 1999 or, maybe it was 2000, Laura Walker, the president and CEO of WNYC in New York City, made $361,119.
Personally, I've never been paid a cent for doing the Homelessness Marathon, and the most we've ever paid anyone for a broadcast was $500. That went to engineers before we had engineers who would do it for free. In the last couple of years, I've taken to paying a couple of people $250 for their weeks of work, so as to limit their loss of money for the time they put in, especially leaving other work to come to the broadcast site. I've told them I'd like to give them $500 this year.
I've had very good relations with NPR folks further from the centers of power, but not so much with the ones from big cities. Take Mikel Elcessor, the general manager of WDET.
I first contacted him when he was the PD (program director) of WNYC in New York City. We had a leisurely process during which I tried to introduce him to the Marathon, I sent him a packet, and I tried to soothe him into taking an hour or two as a trial. I complimented him on how open and fair he was and he complimented me on how patient and considerate I was. Then I accidentally caught him in a meeting and, under the pressure of the moment, he just basically said no-way-no-how would WNYC ever run any portion of our broadcast.
This time I wrote him a letter and offered, essentially, to let his station develop its own hour within the structure of the Marathon. They could send their own hosts to interview the homeless people we'd have on site. They could send their own engineers. And they didn't have to carry any hour of the broadcast besides the one they were originating. I did not receive the courtesy of a reply to this invitation.
I've always said that I don't care if stations take our show, but I do care if they cover homelessness. After Elcessor turned his nose up at us, I got to wondering just how much other coverage of homelessness WDET was doing, and just how much Elcessor was getting paid.
I filed a Freedom of Information request with Wayne State University, which owns WDET, and according to Wayne State, Elcessor gets a compensation package worth a little over $180,000, which isn't bad for one of the most impoverished cities in the country. The funny thing, though, is that they don't want to tell me how much coverage they've done of homelessness. First they told me that the labor of identifying the appropriate documentation and the costs of copying it would come to $687.59. Then, when I asked them just to give me the number of minutes of news and public affairs programming they had done, without the documentation, they refused, saying that "the Michigan Freedom of Information Act 'does not require a public body to make a compilation, summary or report of information' that is not kept in the ordinary course of business." Of course, if such a summary is not kept in the ordinary course of business at WDET, what they're saying is that they have no idea how much programming they've done on homelessness and would consider it out of the ordinary to even figure it out.
Still, we can get some indication of how Mikel Elcessor views the problem of homelessness by looking at his record from WNYC. In 2007 -- when Elcessor was PD and, by the way, CEO Laura Walker's salary and benefits had risen to $486,688 -- WNYC ran ten stories on homelessness. At least, that's how many come up on their search engine (WDET doesn't have a search engine on its site). These stories had seemingly contradictory titles like, "City Begins Turning Away Homeless Families," and "City Provides Essential Services to the Homeless."
That same year, WNYC ran nine stories on fish, including, "The Zen of Fish," and "Kid Safe Seafood." Hmmm. Ten stories on homeless people versus nine stories on fish. Those were the station's priorities when Mikel Elcessor was directing its programming, the same Mikel Elcessor who couldn't be bothered to answer my invitation to originate an hour of the Homelessness Marathon.
Since I started filing Freedom of Information requests with Wayne State and, I must admit, sending sometimes hostile e-mails (e.g., I sent one to Elcessor that ended, "Shame. Shame. Shame."), WDET all-of-a-sudden announced that it was doing some kind of homeless awareness week. From what I heard, it didn't amount to much, just five minutes three times a day, and one has to suspect it was only whipped up to counter anything bad I might say about them in public, should I choose to raise this issue.
I am still researching WDET, in case this does turn into a pubic spat, but I don't really want to get into a fight with them, certainly not over being snubbed by Mikel Elcessor. If all the people who've ever snubbed me attended a convention, they'd have to walk all over the place just to run into anyone they knew. I am more concerned with the issue of mass media ignoring the poor, but I don't think it's for me to raise this issue regarding WDET, since it would have the appearance of being just something I was doing to promote our broadcast. I think it is a better issue to bequeath to the USSF, when it arrives in Detroit in June.
In any case, to return to where I began, that announcement at the Capucin soup kitchen didn't happen by accident. It was created with some leadership, not least from the Capucins, whose spokesman at the meeting said they were following the teachings of St. Francis. Not least from the homeless people themselves, who seem serious about this effort. And not least from Greg Markus, a professor at Wayne State who introduces himself as having studied organizing with the same guy Obama did. He obviously inspires people, including students and ex-students who attended the meeting and were just as attractive and sincere as idealists at the beginning of adulthood could possibly be.
The irony is that, in Greg Markus, Wayne State actually has an asset when it comes to public relations about homelessness. Any problem that might arise for Wayne State, should it ultimately be revealed that WDET turned its back on the poorest-of-the-poor, could be offset by saying look, here's someone else from the university and see the excellent work he's doing. I will happily make that point for them. Now I wish they'd do something for me and inspire those malfeasant broadcasters of theirs to give a damn about something besides their own wallets.
Finally, let me tell you about my once-in-a-lifetime experience. In Detroit, at the age of sixty, I played my very first gig as a singer-songwriter. This is something I've been working towards for many, many years, and I was fortunate enough to find, at my wife's urging, a mentor who encouraged me that it was time for my songs to get out. So I called up the COTS shelter and volunteered to put on a performance, leaving out the part about it being my first one. The response I got from Didra Farr, their spirited shelter director, made it immediately clear that the bar wasn't going to be set very high. She more than anything wanted to be sure that I wouldn't be like the last two volunteer performers, who had made appointments but hadn't shown up or even called to say they wouldn't be there.
When the moment for my performance arrived, I walked into the room, fortunate to have the company of Lynn Grunst, the program director of WHFR accompanying me. The crowd filed in, and it consisted of maybe 50 - 75 people, including both sexes and some children. All but two were black and, of course, it flashed through my mind that maybe my repertoire was all wrong for this, but in fact, it couldn't have gone any better. I'm sure they would have been well disposed towards any live entertainment, but I also thought they liked me. They even cheered several times during my 45-minute set. It was like losing my virginity with Marilyn Monroe.
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Thank you for your kind words about Detroit Action Commonwealth, Jeremy. We enjoyed working with you. I can't help you much with Wayne State U., though. I'm from U. Michigan.
--Greg
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